BEV5TA 24 Posted April 22, 2013 Hey guys, I use to use a pre workout before most went off the shelf, such as the famous jack3d. I have tried one very soon after they released preworkouts without that ingredient that was banned (forgot the name?) and was very disappointed. However, I know most dont recommend using it, but what is a "good" preworkout in the market? Something that you can feel it kicking in and actually working, like or close to the old ones. Thanks in advance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maiky-s15R 24 Posted April 25, 2013 Finaflex ignite is good also stunner d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris_c30 3 Posted April 25, 2013 You can still get hemo rage orthough I thought it was banned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BEV5TA 24 Posted April 28, 2013 Hemo has a new formula on the shelf now, but I did end up getting it and I'm pretty happy with it so far. Thanks guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris_c30 3 Posted April 28, 2013 Hemo has a new formula on the shelf now, but I did end up getting it and I'm pretty happy with it so far. Thanks guys I still have the old stuff goes off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky88 7 Posted April 29, 2013 Tried craze, will not buy it again. I didn't notice any increase in energy or reps, just made me dizzy and kinda high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maiky-s15R 24 Posted April 29, 2013 Nothing's beats the original mesomorph it was like being on gear and cocaine at the same time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris_c30 3 Posted April 29, 2013 Just take actual gear its all shit anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky88 7 Posted April 29, 2013 Are you saying you can hook me up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dose Pipe Sutututu 160 Posted May 1, 2013 DMAA http://www.trak-life.com/end-of-dmaa-in-australia/ I've still got 3 tubs at home haha.. problem is with Jack3D it hardens up like bat shit after time. Try SuperPump 250 by Gaspari (it's ok ish.. nothing beats Jack3D) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G15 0 Posted May 1, 2013 Shroomtech Sport by Onnit. Natural, no come downs and gets you giddity going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saadn 0 Posted May 1, 2013 the maxs one is fantastic but you can only get single serves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky88 7 Posted May 2, 2013 DMAA http://www.trak-life...a-in-australia/ I've still got 3 tubs at home haha.. problem is with Jack3D it hardens up like bat shit after time. Try SuperPump 250 by Gaspari (it's ok ish.. nothing beats Jack3D) I was so stoked when I found a half full tub of jack3d watermelon flavour (the best one) in my wardrobe only to find out it's turned into big brown chunks. Some people on bb say it's safe to use if you crush it up but I dunno, it looks seriously wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Gypsy 7 Posted May 2, 2013 DMAA http://www.trak-life...a-in-australia/ I've still got 3 tubs at home haha.. problem is with Jack3D it hardens up like bat shit after time. Try SuperPump 250 by Gaspari (it's ok ish.. nothing beats Jack3D) I was so stoked when I found a half full tub of jack3d watermelon flavour (the best one) in my wardrobe only to find out it's turned into big brown chunks. Some people on bb say it's safe to use if you crush it up but I dunno, it looks seriously wrong. Yeah Nah. I've got a full tub of the old Meso and its chunky.. I wouldnt dare try crush it up x.x Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dose Pipe Sutututu 160 Posted May 2, 2013 yeah I crushed it up and use it daily, no runs yet LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opasen 0 Posted May 9, 2013 Out of curiosity do you remove that moisture absorbent sachet or does it even have one to begin with? I always removed the sachet and noticed the chunks forming but this time I've left it in and no chunks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chr1s_Stylez 0 Posted May 9, 2013 BSN No Xplode 2.0 is great taken 30mins prior, but you might as well drink it on the toilet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dose Pipe Sutututu 160 Posted May 10, 2013 I find SuperPump 250 great for giving you the runs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky88 7 Posted May 10, 2013 Out of curiosity do you remove that moisture absorbent sachet or does it even have one to begin with? I always removed the sachet and noticed the chunks forming but this time I've left it in and no chunks. From my memory I don't think jack3d ever came with those sachets. Scavenging through my bedroom I found a full tub of flashover. Not jack3d but has DMAA and best of all no chunks. Good times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocky88 7 Posted May 10, 2013 I find SuperPump 250 great for giving you the runs Not what you want when doing squats lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Gypsy 7 Posted May 10, 2013 I find SuperPump 250 great for giving you the runs Not what you want when doing squats lol There's a reason it's called super dump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dose Pipe Sutututu 160 Posted May 13, 2013 I find SuperPump 250 great for giving you the runs Not what you want when doing squats lol hahaha.. although, I do find Super Dump as Slippery Gypsy refers to it LOL.. better than NO Xplode, I find NO Xplode just as strong as a strong coffee... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maiky-s15R 24 Posted May 13, 2013 I find SuperPump 250 great for giving you the runs Super pump renamed to super dump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highimpact 173 Posted May 19, 2013 Evogen EVP - non stimulant. Athletic Edge Nutrition - Pre Surge unleashed. ANSI - Xtreme shock Glyco Energy Promera Beta Cret Take a pick from any of the above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Gypsy 7 Posted May 19, 2013 I find SuperPump 250 great for giving you the runs Super pump renamed to super dump Got one that tops it. Try the new Xplod 2.0. Three shits in 6 hours like a pro. Stacked MP Assault with MP Hybrid NO powder. Best intense workout of my life, Have never had that much mental focus and pump ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goliath101 1 Posted May 20, 2013 I have a fairly high tolerance to stimulants which makes PWO fairly shit for me (keep in mind I'm 110kg and gym everyday, which use to mean PWO everyday for months). Use to love hitting the jack3d, but once the formula changed I have struggled to find anything that works. Couple recent one's I have tried which have given me a little boost are C4 Cellucor (can get the 60serves between $45-$50) and Muscletech Nano Vapor which I'm currently using. I have even dropped 7kgs this year and my bench and dead have gone up, whilst my squat has stayed the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highimpact 173 Posted May 20, 2013 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^You were hitting stims for months without a break? Shit how is your adrenal exhaustion, no wonder you dont get any effect lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goliath101 1 Posted May 20, 2013 Yeah, that was a few years back now. I'll generally only do 6 weeks on 6 weeks off with PWO now, if that. Was playing a fair bit of sport at the time as well, so I needed as much energy as I could get! Having said that, I found better motivation through training partners and even the occasional vid of a PB attempt on FB to boost the ego. Managed 220x5 DL and 180x7 Squat last week, which is quite good considering I had my second knee reco last august. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
highimpact 173 Posted May 20, 2013 ^^^^^^^^^^ thats a very impressive lift. Try EVOGEN stack, if you want a non stim based product but also want crazy ridiculous pumps. EVP GLYCOJECT CELL KEM I use it and i am never going back to stim based pre workouts every again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROBAPHENT 0 Posted June 3, 2013 I use to take iforces Dexaprine was awesome till they changed formula just like 1MR and Jacked. Still on the look out for another pre work out that pumps me up enough to do a cardio set after weights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites